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Eble de Saignas {PC 128}

Person

1145 - 1175...1180; not named by Rieger (1987) 1993 as a "fantôme"; contemporary of Peire d'Alvernhe (E de S is roasted in {323,11} v.61) and of Garin le Brun, who addressed one poem to him {163,1}, v.52; CC lists fo this poet: 1 tenso with Guilhem Gausmar; Audiau 1922:18n4 "l'identification d'Eble d'U avec Eble de Saignas "soutenue par Zenker (Lieder Peires von Auvergne, p.202), Jeanroy (La Tenson provençale, in A M 2:295), Pakscher et Schultz-Gora, et adoptée par Carstens, a été énergiquement combattue par Appel (Literaturblatt f. rom. Phil 19, col. 109)"; DOM Supl1 1145-1175..1180, famille des seigneurs de Saignes Cantal, [GRLMA II.1.7: 457]; Rivière 1974:8 Saignes, ch.-l. de canton près de Bort les Orgues; probablement né vers 1150; "comtour" est un titre spécifiquement méridional, sans doute importé de Catalogne; apparenté à la puissante famille des seigneurs d'Apchon (près de Riom ès Montagnes, Cantal); BEdT 1999/07/27 generazione; 2= 1150-1175; BEdT 2007-04-23 Circa l'Eble autore della tenzone PC 218,001 occorre tener presente che si tratta del sicuro contrafactum della canzone PC 375,025; non è quindi un testo anteriore alla fine del 12 sec.; BEdT 2.0 2009-04-26 identificazione: Trovatore presente nella satira PC 323,011 di Peire d'Alvergne e identificato da Pirot 1973a, seguito da Riquer 1975, p.338, nota, con un appartenente alla famiglia signorile di Saigna [Saignes], Cantal;

 

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Abbreviation, BEdTEblSaign^ Text
Abbreviation, DOMEbSaign Text
Abbreviation, FrankN/A Text
Abbreviation, RIALTOEble de Saignas Text
Also known asBernart Marti {PC 63} Person/Reliability/030 Roncaglia
Also known asEble d'Ussel {PC 129} Person/Reliability/060 Zenker, Jeanroy; plausible for Almqvist 1951:65; PC p112 I cannot delete him; but NOT Appel /000
ConditionUnattested Text{128,a} now attributed to {129}
ConditionUnidentified TextBec Anthol
Contemporary ofPeire d'Alvernhe {PC 323} Person
CreatedN'Eble, ar cauzetz la meillor {PC 128,1; PC 218,1} Informationco-creator /Reliability/090 PC
CreatedQui vos dara respeg, Deus lo maldia {PC 127,1; PC 267,1} Informationco-creator /Reliability/060
Date, Birth
1145/01/01 Date/TimeEarliest
1155/12/31 Date/TimeLatest
Date, Flourished
1145/01/01 Date/TimeBeginning Date, Earliest
1145/12/31 Date/TimeBeginning Date, Latest
1175/01/01 Date/TimeEnding Date, Earliest
1180/12/31 Date/TimeEnding Date, Latest
Less correctly known asEble {PC 127} Person/Reliability/030 PC
Name, Full
{?} TextHonorific
Eble TextFirst
{?} TextSecond
{?} TextOrdinal
de TextParticle
Saignas TextPlace
{?} TextEpithet
Name, MonolithicEble de Saignas TextRIALTO
Name, MonolithicEble de Saignes Text
Name, MonolithicEble de Saingna TextMS D
Name, MonolithicEble de Sanha TextInternet http://histoire-ma.chez.tiscali.fr/troubadours/Troubadour/
Name, MonolithicEbles de Saigna TextBeggiato 1984:34
Name, MonolithicEblon de Saignas Text{163,1}
Number, PC128 Number
Place, Origin
Saignes TextCity/Commune
Mauriac TextArrondissement
Saignes TextCounty/Canton
Cantal TextDepartement
Auvergne TextState/Province
France TextCountry
Referred to byAnthologie des troubadours {} Information
Referred to byAnthologie des troubadours du Cantal {} InformationTeulat 2005:54-59
Referred to byBiographies (Chabaneau) des troubadours {} Information
Referred to byChantarai d'aquestz trobadors {PC 323,11} Informationv. 61
Referred to byDizionario biografico dei trovatori {} InformationDBT 167
Referred to byLe troubadour Eble de Saignes, avec des notes sur Eble de Ventadour et Eble d'Ussel {} Information
Referred to byLes Troubadours auvergnats InformationRivière 1974
Referred to byLes Troubadours cantaliens, XIIe-XIVe siècles {} Information79-81
Referred to byNueyt e iorn suy en pessamen {PC 163,1} InformationGarin lo Brun v.62
Troubadour RoleJoglar Text
Troubadour RoleTrobador TextXII